Twin “One Seedline” & “No Devil” Heresies, #1

I say “twin heresies”, because where a person will find one, he will usually discover the other! It is quite evident, then, that if one is adamant about the false doctrine of one seedline [anti-seedline], he would attempt to support his erroneous position of one seedline by maintaining there is no such thing as a devil. It is obvious that if one can make a case for “No Devil” it would automatically eliminate “Two Seedline.” Thus, no serpent of Genesis 3:15, no seduction of Eve! This demonstrates how, if one tries to establish a false doctrine, he must continually prop it up with one lie right after another. And perpetually time after time, that is what they do!

In my possession I have two small pamphlets; one entitled Satan Dispelled by Kalamos (whoever that is) and the other The Bible Devil And Satan Defined (again anonymous). The first was republished from a publication entitled Lucifer Scrutinized, Satan Dispelled, by Christian Research, 279 Spring St. Eureka Springs, AR, 72632, and distributed by America’s Promise, P.O. Box 5334, Phoenix, AR, 85010. The latter is distributed by the inheritors of America’s Promise located now at P.O. Box 157, Sandpoint, ID, 83864, and also Col. John R. Niemela, Ret., 1776 Wainwright Dr., Reston, VA, 20190.

The whole plot of the “No Devil” doctrine is based on the conjecture that the “flesh” is the devil. To show you this, I will quote excerpts from The Bible Devil And Satan Defined, pages 2, 10, 11, 12, 17 & 18:

“But once it is recognized that the devil relates to sin, and that sin comes from within, it will be acknowledged that the atoning blood of Jesus is a powerful weapon to defeat and destroy it! It defeats the power of sin by providing the means of forgiveness; it conquers death through the promise of a resurrection to life eternal ... Though the devil basically relates to human nature, or the lusts of the flesh, it is manifested in various forms ... The ‘devil’ against which he warned them constituted the pagan, social and political world which was ruled by the flesh ... They were men of flesh, being dominated by its lusts, and therefore the progeny of the devil ... We have shown that the devil relates to the sinful tendencies of the flesh ... Immortal life in the Kingdom of God to be set up on earth ... is the hope set before us. To attain unto it we must conquer the devil, or sin in the flesh.”

According to this supposition, simply look into a mirror and you are looking at a devil! I’ll bet you didn’t know that, did you? Neither did I!

Evidently, Satan Dispelled by Kalamos is nothing more than an expanded treatise from The Bible Devil And Satan Defined. We are not informed whether “Kalamos” is a name, pseudonym, or some kind of secret cloak-and-dagger, clandestine-code known only to the author and his cronies! The only names which seem to be associated with Satan Dispelled are Nicholas Weins, Mrs. Alfreda Fiebiger, John H. Fiske, Jr., Sheldon Emry and Gerda Koch, and the date was 1980. Reportedly, in later years, Gerda Koch confessed she was not familiar with “Two Seedline” and that she must look into the matter, but died before she ever got the chance. A little detective work may reveal how the “No Devil” doctrine came into the Identity Message. The following is evidently Gerda Koch’s words found under “Publishers’s Comment” in Satan Dispelled:

“It was my privilege for about 15 years to occasionally meet at Mrs. Alfreda Fiebiger’s home with Mr. Weins in Minnesota and spend many an enlightening and delightful hour in Bible Study. The Bible is an inexhaustible Fount, as God Himself is inexhaustible in His Essence. In one of these studies Mr. Weins and Mrs. Fiebiger approached me with the subject of ‘Satan.’ I completely rejected the idea of there not being a personal Satan as unscriptural and unsound. On this occasion they gave me John H. Fiske, Jr.’s ‘Who Was the Tempter of the Human Race?’ which, I must confess, I never read until a year or so ago when Pastor Sheldon Emry of Phoenix, Arizona sent us a reprint of the same booklet. After reading the booklet and listening to a number of Pastor Emry’s tapes, I became really interested. I wrote my friends in Minnesota that now I was not only willing but anxious to study the subject with them ... I wish to thank Mr. Weins again and Mrs. Fiebiger for their dedicated service and Pastor Sheldon Emry for his help in editing our additions.”

So wittingly or unwittingly, Gerda Koch, by giving assistance to Sheldon Emry and company on the “No Devil” doctrine, became an accessory after the fact. Dan Gentry, after commandeering Gerda Koch’s publication, has gone gung-ho peddling these two despicable, untrue doctrines. I will now quote some excerpts from the booklet Satan Dispelled, pages 3, 5, 7, and 25:

“All these foregoing statements stress the fact, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that it is man’s reprobate heart and mind and his unregenerate flesh, which constitute the prime enemy against God ... (That is to say, his spiritual-mindedness and his flesh were opposed) ... The accuser was in Jesus’ case, as it ever had been right from the beginning, the human flesh ... But the Spirit in Him returned the answer, ‘It is written again, ‘Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God’,’ thus reasoning with His own flesh out of the Sacred Scriptures ... CHAPTER IX., ‘THE PRINCE OR RULER OF THIS WORLD.’ (John 12:31; John 14:30; John 16: 11.) These Three Texts Record Statements made by our Lord before His death, and refer to ‘the prince of this world.’ (Greek Archon: ruler). ‘Now is the judgment of this world; now shall the prince of this world be cast out.’ (John 12:31). ‘... The prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.’ (John 14:30). ‘He (the Comforter) will reprove the world ... of judgment’ (John 16:7, and verse 11) : ‘Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.’ Our Lord Jesus Christ was, in all three sentences, referring to Death as ‘the prince or ruler of this world’.”

By quoting only excerpts from this booklet, you may be confused to what it’s saying, so I will explain. To begin, the author is attempting to establish the false premise that the “flesh” is the devil. Then he tries to show a war between what he calls “spiritual-mindedness” and the flesh. After that he endeavors to show that even with Jesus’, in His temptation, that the “devil” was only His flesh.

To demonstrate just how un-Scriptural this flawed premise is, let’s take into consideration Job 19:26 which says: “And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God.” Are we to believe Job’s flesh is the devil? If that is true, then when we are resurrected at Yahshua’s Second Advent, all of us in “devil flesh” resurrected bodies will meet our Savior in His “devil flesh” body, for Scripture proclaims that when we see Him, we shall be like Him (1 John 3:2)! This is pure blasphemy! Question: If the flesh were evil, why would it be resurrected?

If we contemplate Luke 24:39 we get another message: “Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.” Yahshua is speaking of His resurrected body! Therefore the “No Devil” people are actually accusing our Savior of being the devil! I would suggest that all of you who have been buying the “No Devil” people’s garbage, expeditiously reconsider that position. If the “flesh” is so evil as the “No Devil” people claim, why does Luke 3:6 say: “And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.” Are we to believe that there is salvation for the devil? How absurd!

Acts 26:18 speaks of opening the eyes of the true White Israelites, and how Messiah will rescue them from the power of darkness: “To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.”

2 Corinthians 4:4: “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”

Colossians 1:13: “Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son.”

John 12:31: “Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.”

1 John 5:19:And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.”

You can see, then, that the whole hypothesis of the “No Devil” doctrine people rests on the theory that the only war we have is between the spirit and the flesh. Yes, there is a struggle between the spirit and the flesh, but we should consider what Ephesians 6:12 says: “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” The “No Devil” people forgot to read that verse! This passage describes very clearly just what we “wrestle” (hand to hand combat) against and what we don’t wrestle against! It should be obvious that there are two fronts we are fighting in this war, not just one.

A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, page 446: “‘This world is ruled by the ἄρχων τοῦ κόσμου τούτου the prince of this world, the devil John 12:31b; 16:11; without τούτου 14:30. Cf. also ὁ κόσμος ὅλος ἐν τῶ πονηρῶ κεῖται the whole world lies in the power of the evil one 1 John 5:19.”

As can be clearly seen, the entire “No Devil” doctrine stands or falls on the interpretation of John 16:11. And as you have lucidly observed with Scripture, it fell flat on its face! We are now going to use Naves Topical Bible by Orville J. Nave (an unbiased source) to study this. With this issue, we will key in on the word “Satan.” I believe you will be amazed at how well Nave covered the subject. You will need to look up and study every Bible passage mentioned here, and then you can decide on whether or not there is a devil:

“SATAN. Called Abaddon, Rev. 9:11; accuser of our brethren, Rev. 12:10; adversary, 1 Pet. 5:8; angel of the bottomless pit, Rev. 9:11; Apollyon, Rev. 9:11; Beelzebub, Matt. 12:24; Mark 3:22; Luke 11:15; Belial, 2 Cor. 6:15; the devil, Matt. 4:1; Luke 4:2, 6; Rev. 20:2; enemy, Matt. 13:39; father of lies, John 8:44; great red dragon, Rev. 12:3; liar, John 8:44; murderer, John 8:44; old serpent, Rev. 12:9; 20:2; power of darkness, Col. 1:13; prince of this world, John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11; of devils, Matt. 12:24; of the power of the air, Eph. 2:2; rulers of the darkness of this world, Eph. 6:12; Satan, 1 Chr. 21:1; Job 1:6; John 13:27; Acts 5:3; 26:18; Rom. 16:20; serpent, Gen. 3:4, 14; 2 Cor. 11:3; spirit that works in the children of disobedience, Eph. 2:2; tempter, Matt. 4:3; 1 Thess. 3:5; the god of this world, 2 Cor. 4:4; unclean spirit, Matt. 12:43; wicked one, Matt. 13:19, 38. Kingdom of, to be destroyed, 2 Sam. 23:6, 7, with context; Matt. 12:29; 13:30; Luke 11:21, 22; 1 John 3:8. Synagogue of, Rev. 2:9; 3:9.”

“... SCRIPTURES RELATING TO”:

Gen. 3:1, 4-5, 14: “1. Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? ... 4. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5. For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil ... 14. And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: 15. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”

Job 1:6-12: “Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them. 7. And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it ... 9. Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought? 10. Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land. 11. But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. 12. And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.”

[Note: Job 1:7 clearly shows that Satan was NOT of Yahweh, in not asking His sons where they came from. Compare 1:7 to Genesis 4:12, and Acts 19:13.]

Job 2:3-7: “And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause. 4. And Satan answered the Lord, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. 5. But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face. 6. And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life. 7. So went Satan forth from the presence of the Lord, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.”

Psa. 109:6: “Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.”

Zech. 3:1-2: “And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. 2. And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan: even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?”

Matt. 4:1-11: “Then was Jesus led up of the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. 2. And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward hungry. 3. And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. 4. But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. 5. Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, 6. And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. 7. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. 8. Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding. high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them: 9. And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10. Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 11. Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.” See also Mark 1:12-13; Luke 4:1-13.

Matt. 13:19, 38-39: “When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. [Mark 4:15; Luke 8:12.] 38. The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39. The enemy that sowed them is the devil.”

Matt. 25:41: “Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.”

Mark 3:22-23: “And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils. 23. And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? 24. And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25. And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26. And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.” (Also see Matt. 9:34; Luke 11:15, 18.)

Luke 10:18: “And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.”

Luke 13:16: “And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?”

Luke 22:31, 53: “And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: 53. When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.”

John 8:38, 41, 44: “I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father ... 41. Ye do the deeds of your father ... 44. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”

John 12:31: “Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.”

John 13:2, 27: “And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon’s son, to betray him ... 27. After the sop Satan entered into him.”

John 14:30: “Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.”

John 16:11: “Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.”

Acts 13:10: “And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?”

Acts 26:18: “To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.”

Rom. 16:20: “And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly.”

1 Cor. 7:5: “Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.”

2 Cor. 2:11: “Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.”

2 Cor. 4:4: “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”

2 Cor. 11:3, 14-15: “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ ... 14. ...for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.”

Eph. 2:2: “Wherein in time past ye walked accoPlease Feel Free To Copy, But Not To Edit/span/spanrding to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience.”

Eph. 4:27: “Neither give place to the devil.”

Eph. 6:11-16: “11. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15. And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16. Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.” [emphasis mine]

Col. 2:15: “Having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.”

1 Thess. 2:18: “Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us.”

2 Thess. 2:9: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.”

1 Tim. 1:20: “Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.”

1 Tim. 3:6-7: “Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.”

1 Tim. 5:15: “For some are already turned aside after Satan.”

2 Tim. 2:26: “And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”

Heb. 2:14: “Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil.”

Jas. 4:7: “Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.”

1 Pet. 5:8-9: “8. Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 9. Whom resist steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”

2 Pet. 2:4: “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment.”

1 John 2:13: “I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one.”

1 John 3:8, 10, 12: “He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil ... 10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil ... 12. Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.”

1 John 5:18: “He that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.”

Jude 6, 9: “And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day ... 9. Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.”

Rev. 2:9-10, 13, 24: I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. [Rev. 3:9]. 10. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. 13. I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan’s seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. 24. But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.”

Rev. 9:11: “They had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.”

Rev. 12:9-12: “9. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”

Rev. 20:1-3, 7-8, 10: “1. I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3. And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 7. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8. And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle ... 10. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”

These passages only represent a fraction of the Scriptures which could be quoted debunking the “No Devil” theory!

 

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